Comments on: The Party Line http://www.nonfamous.com/wp/2004/06/30/the-party-line/ commentary on the world around us, with an effort to keep paranoia at the lowest healthy level Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:51:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: david http://www.nonfamous.com/wp/2004/06/30/the-party-line/#comment-746 david Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 http://www.nonfamous.com/wp/2004/06/30/the-party-line/#comment-746 I didn't see the interview so I don't know the full context, but if the "this" in: We know that this is an extension to what has happened in New York refers to the recent insurgency in Iraq then I think he's probably right. There was a chilling interview with Michael Ware (Australian reporter with Time) on Anderson Cooper's show on CNN on June 28. (I can't find a transcript now but it might turn up here one day.) He's been reporting on the Iraq insurgency and has managed to get pretty close to the fighters. He reports of men, enraged at the US occupation of Iraq, that a year ago were nonetheless still drinking, smoking and whoring. Now, having been indoctrinated by al Qaeda, they've grown out their beards and are following the fundamentalist doctrine of the Koran. They're no longer freedom fighters -- they are now jihadists. This, of course, is exactly what UBL wanted. So, in that sense, I think the fighting in Iraq is related to 9/11. It just didn't start out that way. I didn’t see the interview so I don’t know the full context, but if the “this” in:

We know that this is an extension to what has happened in New York

refers to the recent insurgency in Iraq then I think he’s probably right. There was a chilling interview with Michael Ware (Australian reporter with Time) on Anderson Cooper’s show on CNN on June 28. (I can’t find a transcript now but it might turn up here one day.) He’s been reporting on the Iraq insurgency and has managed to get pretty close to the fighters. He reports of men, enraged at the US occupation of Iraq, that a year ago were nonetheless still drinking, smoking and whoring. Now, having been indoctrinated by al Qaeda, they’ve grown out their beards and are following the fundamentalist doctrine of the Koran. They’re no longer freedom fighters — they are now jihadists. This, of course, is exactly what UBL wanted. So, in that sense, I think the fighting in Iraq is related to 9/11. It just didn’t start out that way.

]]> By: pam http://www.nonfamous.com/wp/2004/06/30/the-party-line/#comment-747 pam Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 http://www.nonfamous.com/wp/2004/06/30/the-party-line/#comment-747 Yeah, a similar spin came up in carpool this morning. Though it feels a like there's a hole in the bucket, dear Liza. The current situation in Iraq is an extension of our reaction to what happened in New York. Recruiting is up because anti-American sentiment is high because we occupy Iraq. One could argue that we fostered that anti-American sentiment BY invading Iraq. We created the extension ourselves. We drew the line between New York and Saddam and then Allawi uses it as a handy tool for validating his power. I wish I could be more articulate about this issue, but I just feel like screaming instead. Yeah, a similar spin came up in carpool this morning. Though it feels a like there’s a hole in the bucket, dear Liza.

The current situation in Iraq is an extension of our reaction to what happened in New York. Recruiting is up because anti-American sentiment is high because we occupy Iraq. One could argue that we fostered that anti-American sentiment BY invading Iraq. We created the extension ourselves. We drew the line between New York and Saddam and then Allawi uses it as a handy tool for validating his power.

I wish I could be more articulate about this issue, but I just feel like screaming instead.

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