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October 14, 2003

What makes Fred hate?

So apparently the haters use Google, too. In response to my recent post about Fred Phelps, someone named Timothy Phelps posted the following response:

Two comments, filth-boy. First, it's only because you don't really know Christianity or the Bible that you pretend not to know what happens to God-hating fools when they die. Read in Luke 16 about the rich man and Lazarus. Unless you're just dead set on being ignorant, you will have your answer. Second, there is absolutely nothing grammatically incorrect about saying "in defiance of God's warning". God's commandment quoted here is also a warning of the consequences. Much like a statute making an act a crime is a clear and undeniable warning that to engage in the act will result in punishment under law. Try not to impose your lack of grammatical prowess ... in addition to your lack of scriptural understanding ... on everybody!

To which I responded:

Hey everybody-- start calling me "filth-boy." I really like that one. And Timothy, I'm shocked to hear you quoting the New Testament, since your god clearly predates and misinterprets the gospel of grace and love in Christ. My understanding of that gospel is not impressed by your wrongheaded proof-texting. The devil can quote scripture for his purposes, so I'm hardly impressed that you can, too.

Finally, I didn't say it was grammatically wrong, but syntactically (and therefore logically) flawed--I think Fred was trying to say "because he defied God's law," but failed to be that clear. The proposed statement makes it sound like going to Hell is against God's law--tellingly, the opposite of his intended hateful meaning.

Hi Timothy, if you're still enjoying our site, you should know I was raised Nazarene, am a practicing Anglican, and have read more theology than a lot of low-church preachers. I've read the Bible plenty--certainly enough to know that worshipping it (instead of the true God) is idolatry just as sure as bowing down before that golden calf was.

I did a little websearching and apparently this Timothy guy really is Phelps' son. If he's the one I've seen on TV a couple of times--like the time they came to Seattle and picketed my church, St. Mark's, to proclaim that the gay couple who died in the Alaska Airlines crash in California a couple years back were in Hell--he can probably tell us quite a bit about the real, close-to-home motivations for his father's gay-baiting zeal. Because the son I saw on TV acts way gayer than any of us. Hell, he would make Perry look butch. None of the Fab Five are as flaming as this guy. As with the rumored-to-be-a-jew Hitler, we know that nothing fuels the fires of hatred quite as much as self-hatred. So of course it doesn't surprise me at all that Phelps' son spends so much time on the Internet, though I'd expect him to be somewhere with more pictures and less text.

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I wonder how he found the post, though? It's not indexed on Google yet. That's some pretty dedicated net-trawling to defend your father's name. Is he that fragile?

Oh, and Fred sure looks gay in a cowboy hat.

Posted by: david on October 14, 2003 08:45 AM

You rule, dude. Fred Phelps is a pitiful excuse of a human being.

Posted by: Eihwaz on December 13, 2004 08:17 PM

" should know I was raised Nazarene..."

"As with the rumored-to-be-a-jew Hitler, we know that nothing fuels the fires of hatred quite as much as self-hatred."

Posted by: Nate on December 14, 2004 12:07 PM

Um, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here, since you couldn't both to use any words of your own. But no, I'm not a "self-hating Nazarene." Rather a recovering Nazarene--which, among other things, means I no longer think that sanctimony and gossip make me a better Christian than everyone else.

Posted by: jay on December 17, 2004 09:59 AM
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